Support navigation goes in circles
Hi

I am trying email the support team however every navigation that I take that is the appropriate choices only goes in circles.

It ends up at the main support option page...

How do I email directly my account queries.

My account is a Microsoft Outlook.com problem. Non-mobile.







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Kristina S. replied on

Microsoft Forum Moderator
Hi Riley_I,

Welcome to Microsoft forum support!

Please be informed that we provide support to technical issues for Microsoft accounts via emails and forums which we believe is universally accessible across all customers of Microsoft. 

You can provide us more details of your concern here so that we can properly assist you and provide you the solution to your concern.

We are looking forward in working with you to this issue.

Thank you.




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Riley_I replied on

This support forum is nothing more than disgusting if you think that it is some sort of support...

It is discussions between the public and nothing more.

1. The advice is almost always incorrect
2. It is 100% untimely
3. The communications are atrocious
4. The advice is redundant and I find I have to explain the same thing several times.,
5. It i8s completely absurd that I get several different people joining into the discussion for support and have to explain it all over again every time because they are too lazy to read the full post.
6. They are never correct
7. It is a disgusting resource of support,

We need:

1. A form of immediate support
2. A form of correct support from people who know the product and know how to resolve
3. People who actually have authority to review the processes and servers on a technical level to be able to provide resolutions.


Please advise why you gave such a stupid response?




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Vivien_M. replied on

Microsoft Forum Moderator

Hi Riley_I,

Thank you for getting back to us. Let me see if I have understood your concern correctly, I see that your trying to submit a private support request regarding your issue on your account and it seems that it is unable to process due to it is looping back to the main support option page. It is possible that the browser is causing the issue. Please try to optimize your browser, click here for detailed steps. To isolate your issue, kindly verify if the problem also happens when using a different browser.

Also, to get to our private support request you may refer to this link.

However, if i misunderstood your convern kindly provide us the details of the issue you encounter for us to help you resolve it.

Your cooperation on this matter will be highly appreciated. I'll look forward for your reply.

Thank you.





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Riley_I replied on

This reply exctly shows my concerns....

Are you stupid????

I said the support page links to get proper support goes in circles...

I click on the links as suggested and it ends up back at the first page.....

Here I go again.......

WE NEED PROPER SUPPORT FROM DEVELOPERS OF THIS SITE...... NOT IDIOTS.




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Gareth_P replied on

Microsoft

Hi Riley_I,


I am one of the lead engineers working on Outlook.com. We don't have a direct email address for the engineering team however feedback provided under on the Feedback form under the gear icon in Outlook.com does come to us and does get reviewed.


I believe I meet the criteria you have called out above and would be happy to try assist. If you can provide a little more detail of the problem you are experiencing I will see what I can do to help or resolve it for you. If it pertains to account sensitive data let me know and I'll arrange a PM so that you can provide details.


Thanks







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Riley_I replied on

Ok thanks...

My email address is ***Email address removed for privacy***

I have had an email account for about 20 years. I previously closed and account and transferred it to this one... I have had this one for over 10 years...

Recently there have been several changes to the account that has made it impossible for me to manage it. And when I say impossible I mean "impossible".

1. I have been forced to provide back up details for your security, either another email address or a phone number. I do not have either.... I do not have either..... I don't know why it is suddenly a requirement... It is completely unfair for us, especially when we have built a lot of purpose around this account... I have had to set up another email account just for this purpose which I now have to continually manage.... This is not fair, not just or even right in any way...

2. I had been forced to change my password. Stating that someone had tried to access my account... I do not believe that... I do not believe that anyone could have worked out my password. I don't beleive anyone would want to access my account... I don't know why I would be targetted, and also even on the smallest chance that is true, there is nothing of great importance anyone could obtain from it... I can not remember hundreds of passwords. I should not have to change my password unless I believe it is necessary... This is my account, my security... It is now going to be impossible for me to manage.

3. After 20 years we should not need extra requirements, especially ones that we can not provide... I should not have to get a phone number or another email account just to keep this one.... Not after 20 years... This an an "unreasonable" demand.... It is ridiculous....

4. The support for all these problems is little to non-existent....

Just because you think that security needs to be tightened doesn't mean it does... It is our sensitive information... I have never ever in 20 years had a security leak, and more importantly none that has affected me... These security measures are problematic to say the least...

I can not manage my account like this....

If you can not resolve it, please advise how I can save all my emails to my account to for future reference after I close this account....

I have seriously thought of seeking legal assistance in how to fight this, as this can not be right... It will affect my life in a large way as I have built a lot of communications around this account....




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Gareth_P replied on

Microsoft

Hi Riley_I,


I understand your concerns and have been investigating if there any alternatives given your situation. I would point out however that the issues you have called out actually relate to Microsoft Account which is in fact managed and developed separately from Outlook.com since it is utilized across several Microsoft products including Windows 8, Windows Phone, SkyDrive, XBOX e.t.c. My remit extends to Outlook.com Mail and Calendar specifically. That being said we do work closely with the Microsoft Account team.


The requirement as I understand was added by the Microsoft Account team largely for two measures; to assist incase you forget your password and secondly to combat account hijacking as it makes the process difficult for hijackers to take over an account. Without a secondary method of validation situations could occur where customers would find it difficult or even impossible to validate their original ownership. So whilst I acknowledge there is definitely some additional administrative overhead on the part of the customer the intention is entirely to provide additional protection.


The effort of setting up a second account on Outlook.com should be minimal. I believe you can set each account to be the backup for the other. You mention that you will have to continually manage it, I would like to understand more what it is you feel requires continual management. Once set up there should be very little management of the account required.


One thing that was pointed out to me (I'm not sure if it was clear or not at setup) was that when using a phone number it does not need to be a cell phone, it can be a landline since we have voice validation too. The phone also does not have to specifically belong to you, just one you have access to should you be required to validate your details.


I understand your difficulty regarding the password change, I was also faced with this recently too and was required to change my password everywhere. Whilst it is an inconvenience when this happens it should only be triggered when some activity is detected that might be cause for concern, there is no timed forced change unless you specifically enable that option under the account settings. If it is asking you the change the password frequently I would strongly advise keeping the maximum of security enabled on the account to ensure you are fully protected.


Without direct influence over this area the best I can offer is to relay your feedback to my counterparts on the Accounts team so that they can take this into consideration when planning.


I hope there is some way in which we can find a resolution to your problem, should you decide to back up your email from the Outlook.com site the best recommendation I can make would be to use a desktop client and download the mail from Outlook.com. Outlook for example will then allow you to save the mail as a personal folders or archive to your hard drive.


Being a long term customer I believe you must hold high value on the content of your mailbox and as such I hope you can understand that the recent changes on the accounts side are aimed purely at protecting your content to ensure you keep your data yours. I never thought my account would be hijacked until one of my secondary accounts was taken over one day and cleaned out (my take from this was you never believe it will happen to you until it does). One of our top priorities is to always ensure that you are protected to the best of yours and our ability.


I will definitely pass on your concerns to the relevant people in the accounts team. From the Outlook.com Mail and Calendar perspective the advice above is the best solution we are able to provide currently.





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Riley_I replied on

1. If you read my message you would clearly understand that this email account should be for me to manage. Not you... If I think my password needs changing I would change it... If I don't think it needs changing I won't. After 20 years, you just can't take over and make it harder for me. Managing so many passwords on the internet is difficult. It is this that is the problem. This is exactly why people forget their passwords... And if I have a hijacking problem I will review it myself and deal with it myself accordingly....

2. Why would I want a second Outlook account when this one is terrible and unmanageable? You are changing restrictions willy nilly, what is next, you will demand my bank details to keep my account? In order for me to keep this account it has just forced me to change my password, and with that it forced me to enter my backup email address so it can send a sec

Oh why am I having to explain myself...

This is unreasonable.....

I am not going to read through your unreasobable essay trying to defend these inappropriate practices.. Please advise me in a smaller reply how I can transfer all my emails and contact out of outlook (previously hotmail).

Your product is decent however the services and support are atrocious.




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Gareth_P replied on

Microsoft

...should you decide to back up your email from the Outlook.com site the best recommendation I can make would be to use a desktop client and download the mail from Outlook.com. Outlook for example will then allow you to save the mail as a personal folders or archive to your hard drive.








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Riley_I replied on

Before I use that as a "last resort" I want to make sure I can't resolve this issue.

 

Firstly you mentioned:

 

"I am one of the lead engineers working on Outlook.com. "

"I believe I meet the criteria you have called out above and would be happy to try assist."

 

I explained in great detail why the restrictions placed were unreasonable...

 

And with further review I will add this:

 

The restriction came at the time a spam email attacked my account. This spam email came into my inbox due to faults from the technical side. I presume due to the change from Hotmail to Outlook as it coincided with that change.

 

I know this was a technical problem, because I placed the problem on this forum and someone replied stating this and resolved it straight after....

 

The attack came from a sent spam email, not someone hacking for my password....

 

And this technical fault was a fault from Hotmail, not myself..

 

And thus Hotmails failure is continuing to be problematic for me...

 

This plus the fact that my account is for me to manage should be explanation enough for me to get my old password back.. Changing my password was forced upon me due to a Hotmail fault, and now it won't let me change it back stating that you don't allow us to repeat any pervious passwords...

 

Please resolve so that I can get back to that previous password...

 

It is absolutely ridiculous that you forced me to change it and can not change it back because of your own technical faults.

 

If you don't recognise my anger, I will clearly point out that as a Business Analyst myself, I do not know how you can justify this situation... A user of 20 years, and you are almost forcing me to cancel due to your technical faults....




STOP FINISHING THESE REQUESTS BY DIRECTING ME TO THE "CUSTOMER SERVICE" APPLICATION....  IT DOES NOT WORK.... IT GIVES ME A BLANK PAGE!!!!


I WILL CONTINUE TO POST NEW ITEMS UNTIL THIS IS RESOLVED AND I GET PROPER ASSISTANCE...



DO NOT CLOSE OFF THIS REQUEST BEFORE IT IS RESOLVED OR I WILL POST MULITPLE REQUESTS....

Hi!   I had requested an automatic response when everyone writes to my hotmail account, but it is not sending it.  I also have an address where all my mails are being forwarded.  Is it because both request in the same account conflicts with each other?  I need both, how do I do?  Tks!

 

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Original title: hotmail

I have had desktop computers for over 30 years and the present model runs well on Windows 8 and Windows Live Mail is great.  On my laptop I recently upgraded the OS ( also to Windows 8 ) and after installing Windows Live Mail I can receive Emails on that machine but I cannot send them. Also I do not get the usual list of Contacts and the Calendar is empty.

 

I was getting some feedback which suggested that I might not have entered the information about my servers correctly, but I could not find any written record of that and I do not seem to have access to the information on my desktop. I would like to get the laptop to respond to my log-ins in the same way as my desktop does.  Before I install Windows Live Mail again could anyone please explain where, on the desktop, I can find the required information ?  The drop-down link to accounts only seems to be concerned with new accounts, and not with existing ones. Many thanks.

I have had desktop computers for over 30 years and the present model runs well on Windows 8 and Windows Live Mail is great.  On my laptop I recently upgraded the OS ( also to Windows 8 ) and after installing Windows Live Mail I can receive Emails on that machine but I cannot send them. Also I do not get the usual list of Contacts and the Calendar is empty.

 

I was getting some feedback which suggested that I might not have entered the information about my servers correctly, but I could not find any written record of that and I do not seem to have access to the information on my desktop. I would like to get the laptop to respond to my log-ins in the same way as my desktop does.  Before I install Windows Live Mail again could anyone please explain where, on the desktop, I can find the required information ?  The drop-down link to accounts only seems to be concerned with new accounts, and not with existing ones. Many thanks.

 

Original title: desktop and laptop synchronisation

Microsoft automatically switched my hotmail account to outlook mail account, but I haven't been able to receive any emails. I can send but can't recieve.

 

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Original title: outlook mail

Hi,
I have tired on another forum for emails and was directed here. This is an extremely frustrating problem and is taking way too long to fix. I cannot open the majority of my emails on the Office 365 web app. When I click on the email, it only shows more information on the sender and the history of the messages (previous ones from the same thread). I get my email through my university, and it is my main email. I need to use it on different computers, so I need the web app to work, since I can't download programs on computers that are not mine. I did not have this issue before the new version of the web app. This problem occurs on both firefox and internet explorer, with or without ad block and on both Windows 7 and Windows XP. I do not get any error messages. I can forward and reply from messages, but I cannot open the message at all, which means I also can't look at attachments. This is severely detrimental to my work, as it makes contact with anyone time consuming and annoying.
I am also frustrated by the lack of support for the email program. You used to be able to get help easily if you had an issue, whether through a live chat, by calling or through email. Now I can only get help through a forum, which was extremely hard to find and then also had trouble finding out where to post the problem. I also had to create an account to get help on the forum. I do not know why it is necessary to create an account on a forum to get help for an email that I already have. Since this is a severe problem, a forum is not adequate due to the time and information constraints provided. I am seriously considering recommending that my university change everyone's email to a different provider, since not only am I not impressed by the new updated version, but also the bugs, the lack of help and the time it takes to fix the bugs. I have been having this issue for over a month now and it has only gotten worse (as it started off that only a few emails were affected). I had originally reported it to feedback since that was the only location that I could find to report the problem in the first place.
Please fix this.
Thank you for the help.

MSN changed email to outlook - very hard to find support  - too many changes - lost folders

what do I do?

 

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Original title: *** Email address is removed for privacy ***

I am unable to receive email on one of my live accounts.  I am getting the message:  Server Error: 5102   Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x8DE00002

 

 I have sent a test message from that account to another live account and it was received, but cannot receive new mail or access any saved messages in any folders.  My incoming mail from that account can be accessed on my iPad and iPhone.  I have attempted to follow the instructions posted in response to others, but have been unable to get beyond the first step.  I am running Windows 7 and when I get into the commands, I cannot get beyond REGSVR32 initpki.dll.  I get a message that "it failed to load".

 

Please advise.

 

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When logging into Hotmail (and on different accounts) using ie10 or Mozilla Firefox or Chrome,  on two different computers .(Windows 7 Ult. 32bit and Windows 7 Pro 64 bit) the screen takes an age to load up (I have a very fast fibre optic connection 100Mb) after the login page (which appears normal and ok) I do not see my email except as a sort of text page as depicted below. When I try to get status the same thing happens, when I try www.microsoft.com the same thing happens. I got to this page by using www.windows.com not Microsoft. This has been going on for two days now. I have reconfigured all my browsers etc.  Once tonight I actually got into the normal window but on logging out and then logging back in again it has defaulted to what you see below. (which I have copied and pasted) Help would be much appreciated.

 

 

 

 

james hunter

 

 

 

 

I have been using windows live mail for a couple of years now without any problems.  All of a sudden... for a few days now,  I cant send out any email.  We have a few accounts and we need to access our email.  
The message I get is 

A problem occurred while trying to open this message. A problem occurred. Please try again. 

Appreciate any feedback,
Thanks,
Calandrina